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Bullsh%T! On all counts!

 A guy named ManimalLECTOR made himself a name for himself using them, then it caught on, and then perhaps, dominated....and now it is taboo?

 What a bunch of Sissy FuckSticks you all are. Novice control is simply the medium performance of the idolmaster Su-47, with no advantage, but no flaws. Those of you like to bitch, that there's no chance of stalling, that the realism is flawed (As if the number of missiles you have doesn't in it'self do this.).
 Yet at the same time..many of you can out turn novice repeatedly, in a dog fight, and get the inside corner, and you know this. Flying normal is simply unleashing the factors restrained by novice. You can do more..barrel roll, and such maneuvers, that I can only come up with cheap imitations. My barrel roll is fly in a forward twist never going upside down, and you cant even come close to diving down...turning over and flying the other way using novice controlls.

  But I fly the fucker all day every day, evading missiles..Qaams or not....using techniques I have learned in dealing with them. It does take skill to be a deadly Su-47 pilot, and not every schmuck can just climb in one and do what some of us can do in it...Novice or not. I've met more then one guy who beat me with out using novice..they have perfected their skill to a razors edge..don't stall, and stay with in the aircrafts stability, I have perfected the medium of the SU-47's ability, with no advantage or restraint.
 Fuck'n get over it..already!
 It's an option in the game...it's out of the bag...
 and it's here to stay!
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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2008, 12:35:52 AM »
Ive never used novice controls online, I tried them once in campaign and it was to annoying not being able to do exactly what i wanted. Personally i have no problem with people using novice controls i just would rather hosts had an option to not let players who use it enter rooms that have it turned off. It instantly creates and unbalanced playing field if it offers an advantage or not and i think thats completely wrong. Its the reason the Olympics has the Paralympics too. I'm sure many of the guys in wheelchairs are faster than runners...Lets race them together next year...No? Didn't think so... regardless of the dis/advantages everyone should be expected  to start equal and novice makes that impossible.
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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2008, 05:12:36 AM »
I'm with you  bro...I can't fly novice worth a shit but it's always good to have someone good flying it on my side...
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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2008, 05:01:28 PM »
Who cares? Get in your aircraft and lets just see!

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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2009, 09:52:39 PM »
Anytime dude,

 I care not, but you better be damned good, cause on my worst day I'm not bad. See ya on line.

OH? And who the fuck are you anyway? Your like a rash growing in intensity! Did I offend in another life asshole? There are no rules but mine in My Blog. You have no clue. :laugh:
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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2009, 09:57:06 PM »
In my oppinion what is the point to the game with novice.  defeats the purpose of a flight simulator.  so the only reason to use them is that you can hold a high g longer, and turn sharper.  Ive tested it out my self and it defeated the purpose of the game.  So many people do use it for those reason.  if someone wants to fly novice, so be it.  to each there own.

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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2009, 10:11:23 PM »
I actually think it's the other way, with non-novice out turning novice.

But there's so much about this game that aint even close to a simulator, half the shit you guys do would black you out. The weapons loads, no landing no take off's...come on the list is just as long. It's way more game then simulator....so WTF...before it was novice it was Su-47's and qaams all the time. Before that it was something else.

 And when it changes again..something else will replace it.
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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2009, 10:27:05 PM »
well i personally have never bitched about the subject.  as far as the weapons load, thats why we like to fly on lv 2 weapons, although still more then a regular load. cant help that, lol. but it makes people earn there kills more.  that is why we prefer it.

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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2009, 08:26:03 AM »
i feel ya bro just play the game and if a novice pilot ever gets upside down it takes a great pilot to keep it from crashing it makes the plane so vulnerable and un responsive almost but whateva i refuse to set any restraints in my room no bannin od cfas if i fly it i can't ban it that's my opinion (and for those that see a cfa and see lots of points haha come get me if ya dare i score 12000 pts. and have 21 kills and if i score 30000 which i have scored more that's almost 60 kills a cfa pilot has to work hard to score pts. because of the point handicap) but if ya like to fly anything come into my room i ban no aircrafts and only boot disruptive or disrespectful players i also boot people with messed up mics if that don't fix it that noise is dangerous and annoying. i wanna hear my grandkids though i reallly don't wanna hear my wife when i'm 50 lol that's long enough to listen to bitchin' lol
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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2009, 04:39:33 AM »
I actually think it's the other way, with non-novice out turning novice.

But there's so much about this game that aint even close to a simulator, half the shit you guys do would black you out. The weapons loads, no landing no take off's...come on the list is just as long. It's way more game then simulator....so WTF...before it was novice it was Su-47's and qaams all the time. Before that it was something else.

 And when it changes again..something else will replace it.


So why add on to the list?

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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2009, 07:17:27 AM »
I dont agree with novice, but it isnt something that breaks the game.

No offense, I believe that use of the Novice controls is relying on something that shouldn't be a factor.

Regardless.

It doesnt break the game like the idolmaster does.

Its unfortunate that people use the idolmaster and novice in the same factor. 

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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2009, 07:00:24 AM »
eh...some of the planes were made to be used with novice. It's cool. Some people pull it off well, others i think use it as a crutch. Doc ain't one of 'em. The guy can play it well. But there's plenty out there that can't.
They just make for nice targets.
i say let 'em do their thing.

My opinion on Novice, however, is that most people who use it just can't get the grasp of regular. i think that's where most people get their crap with it. But hey, more people playing isn't a bad thing. Why shun those who aren't so good at normal? It's a style of gameplay.
i don't bash people for using inverted controls in shooters. It's a slightly different story there but kinda the same concept.

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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2009, 11:19:04 AM »
eh...some of the planes were made to be used with novice. It's cool. Some people pull it off well, others i think use it as a crutch. Doc ain't one of 'em. The guy can play it well. But there's plenty out there that can't.
They just make for nice targets.
i say let 'em do their thing.

My opinion on Novice, however, is that most people who use it just can't get the grasp of regular. i think that's where most people get their crap with it. But hey, more people playing isn't a bad thing. Why shun those who aren't so good at normal? It's a style of gameplay.
i don't bash people for using inverted controls in shooters. It's a slightly different story there but kinda the same concept.


No planes were designed for use with novice, some are just more effective when using it. ;)
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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2010, 07:36:42 AM »
Novice controls?.... What are we going to go after next? QAAMs done. CFA done. Idolmasters done. Payloads done. It is a game if you fly well you are a good gamer no matter what controls you fly with or what plane you use me I use the f117a and I am good with that plane the payload is a plus but it takes more than having a lot of missiles to know how to use them. I use to here people raging on me all the time your in a bomber this is a dogfight. And most of them were a matures but I just kept flying and they after 2 matches were shutting there mouths. Most of these topics a brought about by amateurs running there mouths in rooms any real gamer on this game shuts his or her mouth and just plays. We all know this. So why do we let it get under our skin? You all have to be the judge of that one yourself's. Next time someone gives you a hard time you just tell them "Shut up and fly." That's it.
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Re: OK..... so now Novice controls are pussified! Let's do this........
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2010, 02:34:45 PM »
i cant fly the f-117 but i love seeing it used by a skilled gamer, a good friend of mine flew it often when he played ac6, and ive rarely found a harder person to hit. The plane is slow as, so i overshot it a lot, and when that happened the stealth kicked in and it was usualy a bugger trying to re-aquire the target.

personaly i agree with the anti-novice/anti-qaams sentiment. Novice seems to only work well on CERTAIN planes (sniggers) and it gives an unrealistic advantage. Correct me if im wrong but when a plane turns sharply to the left it does drop speed in real life? Qaams are just boring, i admit some ppl have found innovative ways to use qaam and normal missile combos. Prob is qaams take little skill and if your internet is superior than most, it will usualy get the target. (lag makes qaams hard to read)

Now im not whinging, just being realistic. I flew the su-47 idol with my squadron as a training exercise. We flew for 3 weeks on novice and by the end of it we regularly fought in rooms of 16 su-47's with many in idols on novice. Novice 47's are like nukes, things just keeps escalating.

in many ways im happy that game is virtualy dead, it means i dont have to put of with all the variations, problems, and over seriousness :) At least in 1943 the playing field is relatively even. We all have the same options, no specials.
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