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« Reply #255 on: September 26, 2010, 01:56:11 PM »
More,

On the wide ranging problems with not only the Dollar but Euro as well, more on the housing issues, Great forecast for Gold and Silver...and a small section with Bob Chapman, as well as the guests listed.

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« Reply #256 on: September 26, 2010, 08:05:42 PM »
                              SPOT                  OUNCES                 PAID           VALUE               GAIN         percentage
Silver                      $21.43                    40                  $740.65         $857.20        $116.55        15.75%


first one over 15% gain oh yeah!

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Sold the Platinum for 410.00/ New Investment in Junk Silver and Bullion
« Reply #257 on: October 01, 2010, 07:19:47 AM »
OK,

First things first....since the platinum wasn't going to break even for a damn long time yet..it's rate price being 1780.00 for an oz...or 445.00 for a 0.25 oz....I got tired of it dragging down my portfolio percentages, So I sold it for 410.00. Today's platinum spot price was 1662.50...so as you see..it had another 120.00 bucks to go. IF you invest in Platinum, better be prepared to hold on to it for a long time. Court at CoinsOne said it's still a good investment as it goes up quite a bit when it does, but is a longer range investment. However it really cant compare right now to Silver or Gold under current conditions.

After that, I made my first real purchase of Junk Silver. What is Junk Silver? Junk Silver is the title to Dimes, Quarters, and Half Dollars minted prior to 1965. So 1964 on back is considered Junk Silver. Now it's still 90% Silver..or .72. Anything on or after 1965 was reduced to about 40% silver content. He also said it's price was different from that of Silver Bullion, but that it could be better...or worse. Currently he said Junk Silver was a better investment then Silver bullion, plus it's real currency, as in Minted Coins, meaning you can buy shit with them now. And you add the bonus of Age which will only get better as time goes by.
Warning though, there are times that silver bullion is the better buy, and not the Junk Silver...this I'm going to have to explore so I understand the difference..which I don't right now.

And there maybe a delay in my putting them on my tracker...cause I'm not understanding a few things. For instance...I know they are 90% silver..or .72 to be exact, but at what weight? Is it the denomination? So a dime is .10..a Quarter .25, a Half .50 of 90%? That's my guess, cause they sell Bullion the same way. However what has me stumped is the Rate price....which is listed on my receipt at 16.2029? But if it goes off the Spot Price for silver...today it was 21.75 spot price..cause the 10 oz Silver Bullion Bar was 22.75 Rate price...1 dollar over spot. So..I'm calling him tommarrow. Cause I'd already be way above my buying price. I'll goggle it too.

IF the denomination is correct...then junk Silver is a hell of a bargin. But as with life..it just cant be that easy. There's got to be something I'm not understanding.

So..I will hold off putting up my New 1964 Quarters, and may even rewrite the halves I already have on my Tracker Transactions. For now Tho, I deleted my Platinum deal, and will add the Morgans, Half's, and the 10 oz Bullion Bar. IF I'm able to get the answers I need, for a correct representation of Silver content alone...I'll add the Quarters as well by tomarrow night when the market closes..if not, their addition will be not shown till I do.

New Investment in total today:

US 90% 34.5 Dollars in Quarters/Half Dollars ( 126 quarters, 6 half dollars)  : RP 16.2029/ Cost 559.00
10 oz Silver bullion Bar                                                                                    : RP 22.75    / Cost 227.50
2 1884-1894 Silver Morgans                                                                            : RP 22.00    /  Cost   44.00

For total investment of $830.50

However..I did notice the Morgans price has barely changed from the originals I bought. And currently only about .27 cents above spot price..meaning, that in all these months, Demand for Bullion has risen, but collectors prices, or vintage coins has not. This could explain the difference in the RP of Junk Silver and regular Silver spot price as stated above. However, I do know the Net Weight of both Dollar halves, and Morgans, so can add them to my tracker based on Silver content alone. The Quarters...will have to wait till I'm positive.

All this will hopefully be represented in my Friday Market Close Tracker Report.                                                                     
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Re: DoC's "Bad Moon Arisen!" Gold and Silver Investment / Tracking Blog.
« Reply #258 on: October 01, 2010, 08:13:40 AM »
Well...I'm going to take a guess.

Now with bullion.. .25 oz is just that, 1/4 of an oz. Or any denomination as it's represented. So... a 1964 quarter has .25% of a 90% silver coin, in weight. A Silver Eagle is a Dollar but also an oz in weight...Morgans are dollar's too.. but they are only 0.773. So I have them to compare to their bullion cousins. That would be 0.225 net weight of Silver in them. At a Rate Price of 16.2029..that a hell of a deal. Court did in fact say that currently Junk silver was the best buy........and my net portfolio jump to over 500.39 in the green. IF I remember correctly tho..a Half dollar has .36 silver in them. that's less then .50 of a 90% dollar. So in all reality...quarters would be a bit lower then 0.225 net weight..my guess..some where around 0.2 to 0.18 of an oz. That would reduce the huge rise in my portfolio profit, but at that rate of 16.2029..still a pretty good deal.

But that still seems to good to be true.....you would think it would go off the AGE first....then it's silver content added to it as a bonus. MY theory only works, if demand for Silver is so great, that age takes a back seat totally, as a mere consideration but not the price decider.

And neither are linked to the paper currency itself, so the falling Green Back has no effect other then to push metals higher.
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As we all know, Bullion is figured by weight alone..times by the spot price (plus their rate) of the market at the time, to come to it's net worth. Yesterdays Spot price was 21.75 Silver spot price...22.75 Rate Price.

Now with your Junk Silver...it's the same, but works just slightly different. Instead of Weight..it goes first by dollar amount. And it doesnt matter if you mix the junk silver either...adding say Halves with Dimes or quarters, cause they are all 90%..or .72 pureity. However..you would have to figure 1965 or after differently using the 40% instead.

So here's what happened yesterday. I bought a total of 34.5 dollars in junk Silver. 31.5 dollars in Quarters...3 dollars in half dollars ( 126 quarters + 6 Halfs ).

You take the dollar amount (A dollar being representative of a full oz..except at 90% instead of .9999%) and times that by it's pureity...which is .72. That gives me the Weight of 24.8 oz's added. You then times that with RP price for the Junk Silver which was 16.2029, for Your Tracker.

Dimes are .072 wieght ea.
Quarters are .144 weight ea.
Half Dollars are .36 weight ea.

Now yesterday's Sale price for Junk silver...was 34.5(dollars) x 16.2029(RP) = $559.00 cost of the investment.
24.8 (wieght in silver) x 21.75 = 539.40 actual worth because of the Current Silver Spot Price. (Well once Silver hits 22.75 which would be the normal RP had it been bullion, you would have 564.20 anyway..currently today it's 22.04...so has gone up 25 cents since I bought this yesterday at about 10:30 am PST.)

So as you see...it's not much...but Junk Silver is actually cheaper then if you bought Bullion straight out. It's already currency, and will not fall in purchasing power with the dollar...which it is and will further. I'd say keep 20%-30% of your metals investments in Junk Silver for future purchasing power should things get worse...which without a doubt...THEY WILL BE!

So..thats how you put it on your trackers. You figure the oz's out...and then list the Silver sale rate price of it. (Which would be the 16.2029..not the current Spot price..or the RP of silver bullion.) You then can times the oz's by the current spot price of silver to figure out the difference...and it's actual worth according to silver in it.
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DoC's Friday Night Bullion Tracker Report For OCT. 1 2010
« Reply #260 on: October 02, 2010, 12:54:16 AM »
Well,

First off, Platinum is now gone from My tracker, which I then took and added a couple of bucks to it, and heavily invest in Junk Silver..also known as vintage 1964 Silver Coinage. Buying 126 Quarters and 6 Half Dollars. That added 24.8 oz of silver to my tracker. Besides this..I added two more 1884-1894 Silver Morgan Dollars and 1 10oz Silver Bullion Bar.

More NEWS..My Gold oz is finally in the Green. So all 3 Metals I have are presently producing a profit, and as a bonus...I have finally enough Silver oz that any new additions doesn't make my profit or percentage back peddle to much from it's former position. OH sure, there is a change...the Two bars I added in the last 2 weeks had RP's of 22.00 and now 22.75..but they account for only 20 oz, while all my former buys are now all producing in the positive to negate the effect!

This "Project" IS now finally catching Steam...and Even Omega, tho not able to invest as much, has some fantastic gains and improved percentages on his investments, that are entirely capable of keeping with my first initial forecast for 90 days. I've passed my first 90..but Omega still has until OCT 24Th to achieve his.

I also spent the morning learning how to enter Junk Silver correctly on to our trackers for a correct accounting of it's silver content alone..just as I've done with my Morgans.


Mybullion Tracker: With Junk Silver and Morgan's added based on their Silver content alone for Friday OCT 1St 2010

                     Spot                  OZ               Cost               Value                     Gain/loss
Gold               1318.43            1               1313.00          1318.43          +$5.43         +0.41%

Silver                22.09            187             3746.72          4130.83          +$384.11     +10.25%
         
Palladium         557.50             2              1120.00           1143.00          +$23.00       +2.05% 
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Totals:                                                   $6179.72          $6592.26         +$412.54       +6.68%

Cost of my 10oz Silver Bullion Bar yesterday was $227.50, it's getting closer to the $250.00 price as each day goes by. You can gain from inflation and or Demand...or eventually fall victim to it. It's your choice. The day you go to the market, and walk away with 100.00 dollars in food, and it costs you 200.00 dollars instead....you'll think DoC was right..but by then it might be to damned late. Why not start investing today while you still have the extra cash?







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Money Morning: "Though it's called Junk Silver the Profits arent Trash!"
« Reply #261 on: October 02, 2010, 04:22:21 PM »
September 28, 2010  Special Report: Though it’s Called “Junk Silver,” the Profits Aren’t Trash
[Editor's Note: A sizeable number of Money Morning readers responded to our recent articles on silver, rightly pointing to "junk silver" coins as a viable silver investment. The article that follows is an introduction to junk-silver investing. Given that silver yesterday hit its highest price level in 30 years - and that prices are expected to head even higher - the timing couldn't be better.]

By Peter Krauth, Contributing Editor, Money Morning
 Despite its name, junk silver is not junk.

Indeed, the term "junk silver" is actually a misnomer, since this form of silver investing has provided excellent returns over the past decade. Junk silver consists of U.S. quarters, dimes, and half-dollars minted before 1965, since coins struck before that time contain 90% silver and 10% copper.

But junk silver's real attraction is that it offers investors the best of both the two possible investing extremes that seem to be attainable right now:


•First and foremost, during intense bull markets in silver - like the one we're experiencing right now - junk silver tends to outshine (and outperform) silver bullion.
•But if some of investors' darkest fears are realized, and the U.S. government's overenthusiastic printing of money were to transform the greenback into so much worthless paper, then 90% of U.S. silver coins would be used for the purpose they were originally minted - as money that can be spent.
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Junk Silver Basics
The term junk silver was adopted because the coins being referenced typically have no collectible value. Instead, junk-silver coins are valued for the bullion value of the silver that they contain. Here in the United States, the most commonly collected junk-silver coins are the Mercury and Roosevelt dimes, Washington quarters, and the Franklin and Kennedy half dollars that were minted in or before 1964. That's because these coins have a 90% silver composition that's known as "coin silver."

There are six solid reasons to make junk silver part of your portfolio. In short, junk silver:


•Is a finite commodity.
•Is no longer being produced (the scarcity factor).
•Is a product (currency coins) that is easily recognizable.
•Is divisible, meaning you're able to use small amounts to pay for something.
•Requires no assaying.
•Was produced by the U.S. government, meaning everyone recognizes what you've got, so you don't need to run any tests to prove its value.
•And is utilitarian, meaning you could actually put change into a payphone (remember those?) or a vending machine to purchase a product or service.
Kevin Drost, preferred client relations manager at Asset Strategies International Inc., says many of his company's clients feel there's a seventh reason to own junk silver that's no less important than the afore-mentioned six: Since it was produced by the government itself - and is "legal tender" - it can't be confiscated.


The Mathematics of Junk Silver
Junk silver is sold in bags of either $100 face value or $1,000 face value. Typically, the $100 face value bags contain 1,000 dimes, or 400 quarters, or 200 half-dollars (the coin denominations are usually not mixed).

 Since these coins were in circulation for decades, wear and tear means they no longer contain 90% silver. In fact, they typically contain about 71.5 ounces of silver. So at recent prices of roughly $20 an ounce, $100 face value bags run about $1,530, which includes a 7% premium to the spot price of silver (On the smaller bags, that's the average premium you should expect to pay. The $1,000 face value bags, of course, contain 10 times the number of coins as the $100 face value bags, with a small pricing advantage of 5% premium over spot silver prices.)

Silver hit a low of $4.06 per ounce back in November 2001. Since then, the returns of the "white metal" have been extremely rewarding for those early - and patient - investors. The returns for silver have certainly been better than those for U.S. stocks.
Indeed, the Standard & Poor's 500 Index - the closely watched barometer of the U.S. stock market - has returned a big, fat "0" for that same period, having been essentially flat after nearly nine years.

Silver, on the other hand, has trounced the broader markets. Over that same span of time, silver has clocked a handsome gain of 429%.

It's true that silver is known to exhibit considerable price volatility. But, as these returns show, that's been mostly to the upside.

So the investor who'd have purchased a $100 face value bag of junk silver some nine years ago would have paid about $312. Today, that same bag is worth $1,650, or five times the original outlay.
Don't dismiss all this talk of junk-silver gains as just a lot of investing trash talk - with the U.S. government printing presses continuing to run overtime to fund its ongoing debt binge, investor interest in precious metals is only going to escalate.

And that means silver prices will head higher from here.

Just yesterday (Monday), for instance, silver futures for December delivery rose 7.2 cents an ounce, or 0.30%, to close at $21.471 an ounce on the Comex. Earlier in the day, silver futures hit $21.645 an ounce - the highest price for a most-active contract since October 1980, Bloomberg News reported.

And there's more to come. In fact, the smallest commodity moves since 1996 are signaling that there's a big move to come in precious metals in the fourth quarter of this year, according to a survey released yesterday.

The Standard & Poor's GSCI Index of 24 raw materials, tracked by as much as $80 billion worth of investments, had advanced only 1.6% so far this year (through Sept. 24) - the smallest advance in 14 years, Bloomberg reported yesterday.

Slumping oil and natural gas prices, the result of slowing growth in the United States and China, wiped out soaring copper prices and a record run-up in gold.

The Bloomberg survey of 24 analysts projected that copper, cocoa, coffee, sugar and soybeans will fall by Dec. 31, while cotton will rise. Corn, wheat and nickel may be little changed. Precious metals will gain through the end of the year - with silver reaching $22 an ounce.

The surge in silver won't end there, either. According to a recent Money Morning forecast, silver could reach $50 an ounce by the 2012 presidential election - a gain of 133% from here.

It's worth noting that Money Morning predicted the current breakout in silver.


Where to Look
If you decide that junk silver needs to be part of your portfolio, make sure you buy from a reputable dealer. This is probably the single most important aspect of buying junk silver. Make sure to do your homework and check them out first.

The list that follows is by no means all-inclusive. But some of the dealers that have established reputations include:


•Asset Strategies International Inc.: Located in Maryland, Asset Strategies (assetstrategies.com) offers a very good selection. Its premiums are reasonable. For more information on Asset Strategies' junk-silver offerings, please click here.
•Kitco.com: A very-well-known dealer, Kitco has offices in both New York and Montreal, Canada.
•Camino Coin LLC (caminocompany.com): Burlingame, CA.
•American Precious Metals Exchange (apmex.com): Oklahoma City, OK.
•The Tulving Co. (tulving.com): Newport Beach, CA.
•Gainesville Coins (gainesvillecoins.com): Lutz, FL.


There's a chart on the article that lays out what coins are considered junk silver...if your interested I suggest you view the link to the article for it's details!

And as a side note...this article is brand new...I didnt not read it till this morning, so my buy yesterday had nothing to do with it...but as fate would have it..i recieved this notice in my emailers this morning...lol! AWESOME AINT IT?!

http://moneymorning.com/2010/09/28/junk-silver-investing/
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Melt Calculator: Easy way to figure the content value in your Junk Silver.
« Reply #262 on: October 04, 2010, 02:49:58 PM »
Hello Smart Investors...for others go play your Xbox while you can! :-*

This weekend I found a simple Calculator which will add and give you the value of silver content in your junk silver. It's pretty simple actually. In the first box is the coin selection, in the second box you enter the number that you have, and the third box you enter the current spot price of silver. And fortunately, this site displays what appears to be the SilverPrice.com silver daily chart.

Easy..simple....at a snap...you can then know the value of your coins...based on silver content alone. No need to keep track of silver content, calculators, or pens and paper.....it does it for you.

http://meltvalue.silvermonthly.com/
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Metals is in Over bought territory/still bullish long term/ Fed Buying Gold
« Reply #263 on: October 05, 2010, 03:58:34 PM »
Not going to copy and paste these articles because their charts are important,

But it would appear that those who have waited to jump into this market..should wait for the lows. Though the long term trend is still bullish, more then one site is reporting Silver is and will continue to rise in over bought territory. That means..don't get nervous, that small corrections are being forecast...so if you do jump in, and price slips..just hang on to the rail and ride it out.

When I jumped in last summer, I went through the same thing immediately, but in the long term as all have seen, it worked it'self out.

MineWeb.com Oct 5 Th 2010
"Lack of trust could push Gold higher, but Fundamentals Precarious"
http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page31?oid=112383&sn=Detail&pid=31

SilverSeek.com Oct 3Rd 2010
"Silver market update"
http://news.silverseek.com/CliveMaund/1286161346.php

And this one has Silver maybe slipping as low as $13.50 with an up coming crash in the Stock market, as peeps will sell silver and gold to make up for losses in the stock market. But then it's all up hill again from there. AT 13.50, that would be a hell of a deal.

But I'll still be holding on to my Silver and Gold..even if it goes below 19.00 or even back to 17.00...why? Cause if this happens...inflation and hyperinflation will hit...over night it could be very possible...that the opposite effect could happen. Say I sell at 18.00..and that would be after losses already.....so the price does continue down to 13.50..but I got a hunch..that after the shock is over...and the selling is over..the price will sky rocket possibly to high to gain anything from it..if I don't have it to begin with. At some point..the Super rich..will pull out of stock market..Gold and silver will drop in price..and they will go in with billions. In fact...selling..in hopes of buying at 13.50 could be a major mistake...cause History has taught me..just how fast prices rise when hyperinflation grabs hold. I'm not chancing it. I'll keep what I have...and ride it out till the crisis has stabilized. Period. IF I don't..I could end up another sucker! Say 13.50 happens...I'll hock my Xbox and all my games to get in....but I'm keeping what I got.

OF course..this move is being reported with a major Wall Street collapse..which Greg Roy warned about last month. However he said QE would stall this..so the next month will be one to watch for sure. What Wall Street is doing..the Dow...the elections...and how the government reacts...another QE move. All are factors...and I'm paying attention.

SilverSeek.com OCT 4Th
"Silver looks vulnerable to short term fall"
http://news.silverseek.com/SilverSeek/1286198215.php




But..here from GoldSeek.com..it appears the FED is now buying gold, through whom? The Banks they bailedout and thus own now. Stealth my friends. The Fed does shit like this all the time. All you have to do is follow the paper trail and it all leads to one thing...the Federal F'n Reserve. They in fact caused the bubbles, the peeps in Government are bought and paid for..either party. And they are making Money hand over fist from all of it...causing the crisis, bailing the banks out, over printing money, and now buying up Gold with the money they over print.

Why haven't tariffs been put up? Big biz of course. The amount of foreign investment from the US into China is enormous. So why would these Corps's...want to cause their own profit margins to shrink? They wouldn't..at the the cost of whom? You and I of course. The Bankers and the Major corporations own America, and are now earning profits at the expense of the American Middle class and flat out poor....which I have recently in the last two years joined myself..based on Yearly earnings. And whom is behind the whole of it....the FED..and CFR. Every President but 1 has been a CFR member in the Last 34 years...Jimmy Carter Wasn't. I dont believe Reagan started out a member.

Here's a little known Fact...George H.W. Bush SR is a 13Th cousin to the British Monarchy...bet you didn't know that did you? Why did we attack Iraq in Desert Storm..British interests in Kuwait..of course. Companies like BP and others have 100's of billions invested there. And there was prolly no way in hell Saddam was going to respect those interests..even though..Kuwait had been a Providence of Iraq..before the British defined the Maps during and after the first two World Wars. Saddam was an Asshole anyway..he needed to be removed...but lets start getting the facts right of why it happened. Not the lies told to justify it. Helen of Troy was beautiful wasn't she.....but do you really think that was the cause of the Trojan war...when in fact if you do a little research...copper and Tin..both where assets of the Trojans..or the market was controlled by their location. The Greeks took Troy because of that..but used Helen as the excuse as described by Homer!

NOW I ASK YOU THIS? IF THE FED IS BUYING GOLD WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? I MEAN THEY CONTROL THE MONEY SUPPLY! THEY CAN PRINT WHAT THEY WANT OR NEED> THEY CAN EVEN FUNNEL MONEY TO COMPANIES LIKE MORAGN CHASE TO PROP UP THE STOCK MARKET. SO WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN DO THEY NEED GOLD? FORT KNOX..unaudited since 1954 is suppose to have 8600 Tons or more..more then the next 3 or more countries combined down the list. HMMMM? ISNT THE GOLD STILL THERE?
ARE They expecting something? You tell me why? And How are they Buying it...by using more of the Dollars they themselves have over printed to begin with....cant you see the writing on the wall? I See it...it's pretty Damn plain.."STUPID FUCKERS>>>>Soup line is that way.....follow the blue line please.....those going to the Mansion on the Hill will be shot!

OH WAIT..these guys are innocent...it must be to put us back on a gold standard...I forgot about trusting them...that's where I have gone wrong.

GoldSeek.com Oct. 4Th 2010
"FEDERAL RESERVE is Selling Paper Gold and Buying Physical GOLD!"
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1286223866.php



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Re: DoC's "Bad Moon Arisen!" Gold and Silver Investment / Tracking Blog.
« Reply #264 on: October 05, 2010, 04:19:59 PM »
if silver goes down to 13.50. i will put every penny that i can put into it in to it.

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Re: DoC's "Bad Moon Arisen!" Gold and Silver Investment / Tracking Blog.
« Reply #265 on: October 05, 2010, 05:07:42 PM »
Omega if it was a season correction..I'd advise you to sell..say if it slipped back to 17-19.00 an oz......but this has nothing to do with Seasons....or that of Demand, or of even being over bought, cause sure that would be a reversal, but not to the extent being suggested. We know what true corrections look like. This is one of those times 10.

And there's one guiding fact for my caution....night time. We have no control to get back in should the Wall Street Crash happen, prices go down. There's are to many Billionaries in China..India..Vietnam...Japan. IF the Market Crashes, the elite will know ahead of time..and pull from both the Dow..SnP...NASDAQ...and Gold and silver...even OIL. Then at some point, they will Jump back into OIL and the Metals big time. And allot of the money pulled from Wall Street ..will find it's way there. Should this reaction happen at night...or even during the day when we cant get to a Store...We very well could be priced out of it...or actually buy very little at a substantial loss.

I see one choice and one choice only...ride it out...and put every extra dollar we can, into it should be fortunate to catch it low..or in time.

This is not a seasonal thing..I've researched it enough to know the difference. MY first sell off was going to be just prior..or within weeks after Xmas...not longer then after Mid January..if I was going to play the market. This is not that nor one of those times. MY suggestion, since we are limited..is to ride it out...and buy everything we can...should this forecast happen. The Fed being in a hurry to buy Gold now... is a sign..that it, it'self is losing confidence in it's own dollar. The United States hasn't activity tried to increase our Gold reserves since financing WW2. This move by the FED is a sign of a significant change in policy...and maybe an indication, that it has been for years..selling our gold reserves to control the price of metals.

And my first numbers are no longer correct...as many countries are now buying Gold....but there is one thing that has changed..I know for a fact Gold Reserves of the US were reported higher then 8100 tons not long ago, and most countries in the top 10 had much less...I'll revise my post above (However..I'm not sure on the others, but there's two unknowns..how much does the US actually have...and how much more has China bought, or rather presently buying, neither country are providing correct numbers):

Country                   Dec-09       Mar-09    % of reserves
United States           8113.5      8113.5           68.7
Germany                  3407.6       3412.6           64.6
Italy                         2451.8       2451.80        63.4
France                     2435.4        2487.10        64.2
China                      1054.00       1054.00         1.5
Switzerland             1040.10      1040.10        28.8
Japan                         765.2        765.2              2.4
Netherlands               612.5        612.5            51.7
Russia                        607.7        523.7              4.7
India                          557.7        357.7              6.4
All other countries  26780.0     26349.0          10.2
Totals                     47825.5     47167.2

And of course there's the chance, they will take steps to delay this again....but one must look at the facts, identify the Dangers...before shit happens..and not cry about it afterwards. IF it's wrong..nothing happens just yet....good. I don't care if I'm or it's wrong.
Whats truly a blessing about all this..is if I'm wrong....I'm better off...we are all better off. Win/win..at least where reputation is concerned..If it's or I am right..many of us are totally screwed...and by then it wont matter. By taking a chance in drawing a line in the sand and saying I will state my opinion, I will keep investing in Silver and Gold....
I'm at least doing something...and doing nothing is just as big a crime as those being done to us.
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Well just in time,

Once again the market was saved by QE...Japan's centrel bank announcing a +400 billion stimulus...with reduction of interest rates to 0.01 %. soon to be followed by the US it would seem. The ripples of the dying US dollar does in fact effect all markets, tho the Japanese have been dealing with Deflation longer then us. So the dollar dived today...while the Euro soared.

This is not about trade anymore...it's not about the world economy getting better. Market rises are no longer based on improved consumer spending, Industrial Growth, reduction in Unemployment. These things are happening because most all world currencies are in a free fall, and struggling ...fighting...so their's dont crash first.

The Problem with American Debt..is almost everyone is in the same shape..only a handful of economies aren't. Sure Demand is still a factor...but very small. It's a currency WAR boys...it's not about economic growth, but who is left standing in the ultimate World Slug feast.


So lets look at positive headlines shall we? Today the main stream media reported growth in the Service sector this time...what was it last time..oh yes..the housing market for August. They were comparing it (Housing Market) to the month prior...but it should have been compared to last August..in which case..it was horrible. See for all things there are good and bad months. Seasons for high and lows..do to world events...such as Tax time..Xmas..New Years..when crops are brought in. So products naturally do better on certain months then they do on others. So the media lied.


Well lets look at what I'm talking about...only this time it's the service sector, or non-manufacturing busienesses.

MarketWatch.com OCT 5 2010 4:29 EDT
"U.S. Stocks rally to 5 month highs on Recovery hopes"
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-stocks-jump-as-bank-of-japan-cuts-rate-2010-10-05?dist=afterbell

OK..question..if things are so good..why is Japan doing what we have been doing? STIMULUS isn't a recovery, it's a temporary..as shown by the US's attempt to do the same thing..multiple times.

Let's look at one thing it said......
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The major U.S. stock indexes extended a solid start after the Institute for Supply Management’s index of non-manufacturing businesses climbed to 53.2% in September from 51.5% the prior month. Read more on ISM.


OK..now lets get another point of view on the samething...say from...ummmmmmm
Greg Roy..the same guy who showed us the housing improvement wasn't anything like it was being shown to be.

(Unfortunately his emailer I cant post..it wont let me..so the charts he has to support his claims are not shown..but I can show you his words)

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The media loves to take a headline number and use it to fool the public.
 
Just a few weeks ago I pointed out that the headlines stated new home sales were up, but that was in comparison to the previous month, which was an all time record low.
 
Yes, sales numbers were up compared to the previous month, but compared to the same month the year before, sales were down by 19%.
 
But that's not what the headline number proclaimed.
 
Today, the ISM non-manufacturing number was released and it is supposedly "good news" on the economy.
 
Forbes ran a story titled, "ISM Shows Sustained Growth In Services," while the Associated Press was trumpeting a headline, "Service sector growth accelerates in September."
 
Wow. This must mean the economy is picking up steam, soon they'll be thousands of companies hiring, high-paying jobs will again be available, and the good times will be back.
 
At least that's what the headlines
would lead you to believe.
 
Statistics are funny things. You can always find some inconsequential statistical tangent that can be used to support your case.
 
That doesn't mean your case is correct, though.
 
So in my usual fashion, today I'll give you a different view of the ISM data.
 
The data released today is for the service sector only (non-manufacturing). The ISM survey is made up of 12 components. The two that I look at the most, business activity and backlog of orders, were both down falling 1.6% and 2.5% respectively.
 
That's not good. 
 
Even worse, when we look at the ISM Manufacturing Survey ratio of orders to
inventory, we get a VERY ALARMING picture.
 
You see, the ISM numbers will look "good" if businesses build inventory. That shows lots of activity, and it is assumed that businesses envision economic conditions improving as the reason for building inventories.
 
But what if businesses increase their inventories, but then aren't able to sell it? Is that good?
 
No. 
 
So what I like to look at is the ratio of orders to inventory. If we have lots of orders and lower inventories available to fill those orders, that would indicate positive economic conditions going forward.
 
Likewise, if we have low orders and lots of inventory, that would indicate soft (or worse) economic conditions.
 
Since the start of the year, this ratio has been collapsing, falling from about 1.8 to 0.98 for September.
 
This is clearly a sign of rapidly weakening economic conditions.
 
Remember that the next time you read a headline that the ISM numbers are "good."


-GREG ROY

Just to bad I cant show the chart...it's not good. Nothing is improving..countries are just taking turns to prop the market up, and the Media is lying to us saying everything is getting better..all the while inflation is growing...as more money is being thrown at the economies of the world.
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DoC's Friday Night Market Close Tracker Report for OCT. 8 2010
« Reply #267 on: October 09, 2010, 02:34:48 AM »
Well,

Just added 3.312 oz in Junk Silver at the spot price of 23.20. Once again..this is neither a true representation of it's worth or what was spent...but it's as close as can be gotten to using it's silver value alone. The metals market has more then a one way street to travel down...it has multiple avenues based on the numerous combinations of bullion and coinage available to invest in.

But this is close enough for our purposes.


Mybullion Tracker: With Junk Silver and Morgan's added based on their Silver content alone for Friday OCT 1St 2010

                     Spot                  OZ               Cost               Value                     Gain/loss
Gold               1346.71            1               1313.00          1346.71          +$33.71         +2.57%

Silver                23.20           190.31         3823.56          4415.19          +$591.63     +15.47%
         
Palladium         583.00             2              1120.00           1166.00          +$46.00       +4.11% 
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Totals:                                                    $6256.56          $6927.90        +$671.34      +10.73%
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« Reply #268 on: October 09, 2010, 04:49:41 AM »
metal                      spot              ounces            paid            value              gain           percentage

silver                    $23.20              40               $740.65      $928.00         $187.35            25.30%


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GOLDSEEK.com Radio: Guests Harry S. Dent JR and Chris Powel 2 hrs 09-08-10
« Reply #269 on: October 09, 2010, 02:29:03 PM »
Hello morning investors....

I bring you another addition of GOLDSEEK.com Radio. and they guests speakers were so compelling, I will be adding their Web.sites to my list and any free emailers they offer. One is a .org site even. There were a few more speakers as well not in the title..one being Bob Chapman again, and a guy from the site Conker change. All guest talk about continuing spiral of the world economies, but that it will act like a world SEE SAW....America will be effected...then Europe will, and then back to the U.S. Both will continue QE which will throw the Japanese and the Chinese into the Mix. No economies will be safe. China is an up and coming Global power...and although they have presently..2 Trillion in foreign reserves..their economy is mainly Export related at this point. The awesome exports of china has helped their wages to rise, improve their living standards...but with economic growth..you eventually get into the Credit market. As their citizens have become more wealthy..they, like Americans have...invested in the future. Those investments are in realestate..also their own Stock Market.
IF countries went under....and exports were highly reduced..the Chinese themselves would find their economy in trouble. Jobs would be cut back..deflation would happen...and finally..just as it did here in the US..mortgages would default.

Anyway, the whole damn Radio program this week is pretty damned good. I hope you enjoy it!

New Web sites I will be checking include:

HSDent.com
Gata.org
GoldRush.com
Conkerchange.com (I think I've seen this one before..but will double check.)

No rest for the weary!


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