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I just signed up for Money Morning, which is a Finacial News Letter!
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2010, 01:44:33 AM »
Well,
I seen a add for a free Money Market Investment News Letter, on my Silver tracking site.
Here's what it says about CHINA!

http://www.moneymorning.com/reports/Silver_MMSIL01101.pdf

So now I'm not just the only one saying it. Just keep scrolling down the link.
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Re: DoC's "Just in case the Sh*T hits the fan!" Investment and tracking.
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2010, 01:57:27 AM »
i was thinking of buying 20oz. of silver next month. then 5-10 every month after that.  i can do one to two hundred dollars a month for this. but i can't do no 1000 dollars right now.

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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2010, 02:18:44 AM »
Like I said Bro,

Each of us must decide what he is capable of investing, without hurting his plans, family, bills, and other such factors. Ignore my first investment. I been saving for a new truck. Money has been growing slowly, but pretty much just sitting in my checking account. Hell I didnt even have it in my savings. So I happen to have the amount I invested on hand, that wasnt needed at the time, yet. But I didnt throw it all in, and I'd like to replace some of it before I further invest. Or settle for a cheaper truck.

Decisions...decisions. We all got them. I think your plan sounds awesome, as long as it doesnt change your life goals and plans. I might have invaded that rule myself. It comes down to keeping this in perspective. 
This is not a get rich bullshit deal. I never wanted to convince anyone it was. But it does feel like a good opportunity, to combat inflation some, and perhaps if nothing else, a nice way to build on your retirement...slowly, and over time.

These things arent going to happen over night, and it is a market, so we will have up's and downs. But I think it's real, and more then possible. Everone should realize, this is my first couple of days in the market, and only a few weeks of thinking about it.

I'm only providing information, and backing it with my own faith, by investing in it myself. That is all.

You got a plan, sounds like a nice one. It even has room to cut back if need be...but still improve your stock.
Looks good Bro.
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2010, 02:26:34 AM »
the only planes i have right now is to pay off my house and my truck within ten years. with the math that i have done it will take me about eight years to pay off my house after i pay off my truck. i learned that if you make too many planes in life you end up breaking them. and i like to keep things simple, if you haven't been able to tell.

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2010, 02:44:31 AM »
I am glad to see there are people paying attention. Gold and silver investments are an effective time proven method to hedge yourself against 'Hyper Inflation'. Double dip recession verbage is being thrown around in the fortune 500, NASDAQ, Wall St. and the Chicago Board of trade; like these people have actually lived through one. If that's not enough, look at what is happening throughout Europe. They are openly talking about the collapse of the EURO, while the FED hides the fact that they are trading a new global currency, on a 'Global scale'. Now that the Cyber Security Bill policies are already being written, let us not take for granted our current free speech status on the internet. The time to wake up and get information out is now. In the spirit of getting info out, I have to start somewhere so for this post I will start here.
 
- 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia

- 18-times as much oil as Iraq

- 21-times as much oil as Kuwait

- 22-times as much oil as Iran

- 500-times as much oil as Yemen

- and where you ask is this place...Alaska, a mile down in the middle of the ocean somewhere...

Well, lets see what the USGS has to say....

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911

Nope. Not only that, but it would cost us Approx. $17.00 a barrel to produce, and that number is conservative. I wonder why they wont tell us that.


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Re: DoC's "Just in case the Sh*T hits the fan!" Investment and tracking.
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2010, 08:03:10 AM »
Hmm, interesting. I thought silver wasn't as good of an investment though, because it was gradually losing value. I guess that's changed.

Maybe I'll try and get into this if I'm ever not-broke enough to afford to start.

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2010, 08:42:17 AM »
I'd like to announce that Jimbob has just been inducted into the freedom movement known as Freeman United, or F U.
He will be given our New Handshake which is a middle finger extended, while first saying "Knowledge is Power" and then we chant F U, F U, F U!

Awesome bit of information there. I have allot to look at on this site, but it is quite impressive, and knowledge is power. Couple things I need to check out is how easily these new fields are suppose to be to get the Oil from without jumping to any conclusions on this. Then I will be asking the Question, how long have they known? And finally why have they allowed our Nation to be destroyed by a un-ending wound of Oil imports, as 100's and 1000's of billions of our currency has been shipped over Seas because of our supposed lack of this resource.

Like I said, I got alot to look at and maybe goggle on this, so I can simply grasp what is being shown here. And what, if anything is being done now to correct our Oil problem. Could it be that this information would toast Obama's Cap and Trade Bill? And if we have the capacity to in fact produce more Oil then we need, why are we not fixing our National Debt by doing just that?

Interesting...this is New information to me. I guess it comes down to what they allow to happen here. If they do make America the worlds largest producer, then technically, our problems are solved. But Obama's Cap and Trade Bill would hurt this move. Going to have to keep my eyes on this subject in the future, that's for sure. Who knows what impact the Gulf Spill will have on this as well, if it is true.

And I'm not changing a thing on my silver investment. I will not be exploring stocks as a subject topic on the site, even if I do, so this has no impact on my present plans as it sits. I'm going with Silver until I can afford a bit more gold, if ever.

But I'd like to give Jimbob a hardy salute, buy turning East towards the White House towards the Man and not the office, Finger Extended....
"Knowledge is Power!"...F U, F U, F U!
And invite his participation on the 2012 Thread, with as much incite into Our Worlds terminal condition as he would like to submit and join into.

Sorry this is a secret club with no members list..but currently it is growing. Me...well I'm just it's Representative and PR Guy.  :-\




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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2010, 09:04:47 AM »
Hmm, interesting. I thought silver wasn't as good of an investment though, because it was gradually losing value. I guess that's changed.

Maybe I'll try and get into this if I'm ever not-broke enough to afford to start.


HI SKull 1,
Yep looks pretty good for both Gold and Silver. But Silver is pretty cheap right now, and an easy thing to get into. Plus the pay off could very well far exceed Gold, dollar for dollar invested. Try to diversify a bit if you can. Just to be safe.
  I invite you to goggle it, check it out yourself. But I assure you, I've done just that, and have put a little money where my mouth is. It all makes real good sense. Whether the world ends or not, whether we see inflation or hyperinflation, or none at all...could be a Win/Win/Win/Win! And it could be a good short term investment, say 6-12 months, or long term extending to retirement if you wish.
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DoC's Weekly Investment update Friday June 25 2010
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2010, 10:20:56 PM »
Every Friday,

I will update how my investment is doing. That way we ride out some of the highs and lows. That leaves reporting about 4 times a month as time goes along. This will also help others to make their choices. Or even to explore new area's in the same field. There's many ways to invest in both, from different countries even. Like my one Canadian Maple Leaf Gold Bullion.

My buying prices:
1313.00 Canadian Maple Leaf 1oz Gold bullion               stock:1
    19.85  Silver Rounds 1oz Silver Bullion                        stock:15
    24.00 1878-1904 Fine-VF Morgans (Silver Eagles)      stock:4

Last market update of prices for Gold and Silver Bullion:
1255.31 Spot bid price Gold oz    Up 9.81
    19.04 Spot bid Price Silver oz   UP 0.31

My Sale Price at CoinsPlus:
1254.10 Canadian Maple Leaf
    18.56 Silver Rounds 1oz at under 60
    22.50 Morgans Dated 1878-1904

CoinsPlus sale Price:
1337.53 Canadian Maple Leaf
    19.01 Silver Rounds 1oz at under 60

Market spot price Summary:
End of my first week, my gold investment is up. And tho my silver went down to a low of about 18.50, it's now on it's way back up. It will be interesting to see when the Market Spot price exceeds my Original buying prices including their transaction percentage fees.

This is the only rollercoaster where the going up is funner then the fast trip down!  :laugh:
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Re: DoC's "Just in case the Sh*T hits the fan!" Investment and tracking.
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2010, 03:24:50 AM »
WoW peeps are thinking now.

I was just PM'd with a very good question. So I'm sharing it with you, as well as My answer to him.

Question:


on: Today at 01:13:29 AM I was looking at silver prices on line and the forms that it is available in earlier. I had planned on buying the 10 oz bars because they aren't that expensive and they look really cool! However, it occurred to me that if the shit does hit fan and these will in fact be used for bartering, coins make much more sense. What do you think?


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Good Question,

Unnamed Pm'r, I'd say both. Diversification is best in my book, and your really thinking. If your able to hit up the Bars this time, go with the coins in your future purchases. But who knows how much time we got. I been talking to other peeps. I'm getting all kinds of things to think about. Some think it's possible we don't even have to the election. I highly doubt this, but you never know bro. I'm watching a live fox news show right now, about the Oil Spill and terms like "power" "Cap and trade" and Obama's ability as a President is "terrible". This is live and National.

The Idea of a future Bartering system is using your head. Very well could happen. Plenty of the smaller coins is a wise idea, however, your not going to want to tot around a shit load of coins either should things really go south. And if at least that doesn't happen, things don't get that bad, 10 oz bars is a good long term investment preparing for retirement. But always remember... Food is going to be very important, and tradable.

So, I would go with both. A few bars, and a number of coins/rounds. Improving your stocks in both down the road. Even though silver looks highly promising, I'd still invest in at least some gold coins, that are cheaper then the Bullion ounces. I seen a few gold coins in the 275-375 dollar range. still expensive but way cheaper then Troy ounces .999 Bullion.

I'm no Expert...but diversification is always the best answer in my book.

Always remember guys..things like Seeds..batteries..canned food stuffs and wireless CB radio's and communication sets, and hundreds of other things are just as important as these metals. But it does at this time appear we have got sometime. Seeds are cheap, I would stock up on that immediately. In a Bartering system, the food will be prolly be worth more then the Silver anyway. And you can count on it year after year with each growing season till things change back.

Obama and the Democrats are REALLY worried about this Novembers election. "No sh%t Mr.President....you should be!"

But remember guys, Cornered animals are dangerous! Prepare for as much as you can now.

(But I like the idea more I think about it. My next purchase, I'll get a bar or two of the 10 oz'rs myself, and just add 5 more 1oz rounds. I should be able to add these stocks within 10 days...I'm hoping, worked a side job and should be getting 660.00 from that. I'm going to post the spot prices on this right now next here on this post.)


CoinsPlus Inc.
10oz .999 Silver bullion Bars: (Todays Prices within this hour)

18.99  Per Ounce Silver spot bid (market price spot bid)
203.30 Coins Plus sell rate per Bar
185.54 Coinsplus Buy rate per Bar

Yep... My Next goal is 1 or 2 of the Silvers Bars, 1 alternate Gold coin scource, and everything left into rounds (hopefully at least...2-5).
I noticed silver spot loss 2 cents from my earlier post. Man guys..got to ingore it...it's an uncomfortable feeling! hehehe.


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Re: DoC's "Just in case the Sh*T hits the fan!" Investment and tracking.
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2010, 05:00:11 AM »
now remember if you do buy seeds, make sure you buy the organic type. that way you can dry some of the seeds from the plant and keep them to grow the next season. with a bartering system it is simple. people want what they don't have. toys, bathroom supplies, soap and shampoo. and that is just naming a few.

one thing that i did is buy some fruit plants. strawberries, cherry tree, peach tree, grapes. but you should buy things that will grow in your area. things that i can use now and use later. that reminds me i have to buy some canning supplies. basically with fruit or vegetables you can plant alot of them and at harvest time, jar the items that you don't use at that moment. when you jar fruit and vegetables they will keep for years on end. basically until you decide to use them. the proper term is canning. even though you are putting them in a jar.

right now i would not buy anything to crazy. but, buying a few extra canned goods or a case of bottled water won't hurt. i would only truly start to focus on it when i truly believe that it will happen.

remember this, the media will only tell you 1/10 of the truth to get you to believe 9/10 of a lie. doc and jimbob you should post early warning signs. like food prices start to rise for no apparent reason, the government start to recall troops from all over the world. from places that they should stay at.  things like that. 

one more thing. it is very easy to get ripped off using the bartering system.
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Re: DoC's "Just in case the Sh*T hits the fan!" Investment and tracking.
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2010, 05:19:57 AM »
Yea,

Omega is right. The first mission and concern of this thread is to combat inflation. That's is it's primary goal. I was only agreeing with the PM'r that a possible Bartering system should be viewed as a possibility, and what items will be important as far as what will be tradable, as well as help you survive. But these things may not happen...keep this in perspective. Food will be worth allot, so seeds are a asset too, and easy to get. Cheap as well.

But...lets just say...all we are preparing for is just regular inflation, and leave those things to future events.

Great post Omega.

Future tracking Goals of this thread

I will be once or twice a month....be comparing the base price of my total investments together, and compare it to the current worth of my investment with that days spot prices. That way, I'm not just telling peeps, but showing them to. I believe this will help them make these decisions. And is protection against anything being wrong or changing, so we can all get the hell out of it should it be wise, or an economic change occure that no longer requires such devotion, we are through the Storm.

Any New additions to my investment will be listed at the price I bought them at as well. I'll even track the additional investment in my present stocks, under different buy prices. Cause once this is done...all of it will still have the same sale prices, so easy to compare.

My devotion to this is insurance to us all, that mistakes aren't being made.
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Re: DoC's "Just in case the Sh*T hits the fan!" Investment and tracking.
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2010, 07:27:00 AM »
I would think anything you can do to make yourself self-sufficient would be best. Solar/wind power to go off the grid, well-water, etc. Those would be longer-term goals though. I'd also prefer to live somewhere where winter wouldn't be a problem and the growing season was year-round.

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Money World News: "Changes in China could change World prices!"
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2010, 08:14:42 AM »
You wanted signs and updates?

Here ya go. Inflation is coming.

Money World News June 7 2010
http://www.moneyworldnews.com/2010/06/07/changes-in-china-could-raise-prices-worldwide/

In other words, Economic conditions in China, though relied on in the past to keep inflation down, has now reached a level, that they are themselves are unable to contain it. China is booming. According to the Laws of Economics, they have no choice but to change policy....and prices will rise across the world whole, now that it's all connected. Inflation will hit the world whole. But Gold and Silver are immune. The metals you have, that is, right now. There's still time. But you should at least be by now seriously concidering it. If not this one, at least some kind of secure idea's and plans of your own.

IN FACT GUYS listen to this. It just hit me. You know what could impact our situation and help our economy? IF we the people whole, started saving instead of spending and running themselves into debt. I doubt we Americans can help ourselves tho...we like to buy sh%t and I want a Newer Truck. hehehe.
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Gold and Silver spot Histories one week to up to 36 years.
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2010, 09:05:50 AM »
Here's the charts from Jetmech's History sites.
Check them out.

Gold bullion 1 oz histories:
http://goldprice.org/gold-price-history.html

Silver bullion 1 oz histories:
http://silverprice.org/silver-price-history.html

Then think about China's impact. The last line in the Money News letter above this post was: "And China wants to manufacture High Tech Products."
They are going to need allot of Silver for manufacturing and they will be able to offer high prices for our gold because the demand at home, the cool jewelry, watches, golden flakes on icecream! These new consumers are going to love to have this stuff. We do. because their ability to buy more of these is improved, they will in effect, enable us to counter inflation somewhat, if its stays normal. See ...Two Reasons: 1 the price of your gold and silver will rise with inflation. 2 Increases in demand will most likely, give you awesome profits, past the rate adjusted because of inflation.

Example....you have 500.00 dollars worth of silver. Before looking at market prices, it is already self adjusted to the rise in worth from inflation. So, say for that week inflation causeing prices to rise by 20%. Your silver now costs 600.00 on the market.
THEN for that week, you'll add China's impact on the market. More Tech companies are created and start manufacturing. IT will cause silver to rise. Say it is an additional 5% for the week. This is a profit on your silver after the adjusted rate from inflation...so gravy. Your investment is now worth 630.00 dollars...in inflated Cash. The Next Week you start out at 630.00 at base uninflated worth that week. Say inflation was down to 10%..Your 500.00 orginal dollars worth of silver is now worth 693.00 in inflated price....China causes the rpice to go just 2% for that week..down some so your silver is now worth 706.00. Put another way..total inflation for 2 weeks was 30%....on 500.00 dollars worth originally..so 650.00. Your actually 56.00 dollars above inflation at 706.00 which will now be added to future inflationary rates...and so on and so on.
 The dollar hasn't fallen yet.....hmmm wonder what they talked about at the future G20? The Weather...

And as a bonus....say they manage to finish the dollar off? Gold and Silver should still be part of any New world Order currency, or even perhaps China's. Gold and Silver should be transferable across currencies, while dollars are worth nothing, in the worse case scenario.

Well in my theory it should be. Unless we have become slaves in the true sence of the word. In reality, if a New World Currency is instituted, it might be possible to institute regional world price fixes and really screw us all one at a time...hehehe but thats so far out of sight, and truely fearmongering. There may be alot of inbetween time, when it's truly going to help. But that just goes to show how into thought I am on this.
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