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Note: NEED HELP DECIDING SOMETHING..TEAM REP's....tourney duration!
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October 09, 2010, 04:36:53 PM »
In a 4 Team Round Robin there is only 3 matches. Championship match would make 4 weeks.
That could be a pretty short tourney. However...I could run it Double Round Robin..continuing the rotation...for two shots at each opponent. For a total of 6 weeks.
But I'm not a TEAM REP this time. It's actually YOUR Tourney. Jetmech72 and I are only game judges. Therefore everyone is free to express their opinions..but I'd like the Tourney Team's Rep's feed back, before committing to this Idea.
6 weeks is an average tourney..with the possibility of a championship match..but I would think that would further reduce the chances of one being needed.
IF a 5Th team shows up today...We will run a single Round Robin with a bye week...that 4 matches with the possiblility of a Championship match. As far as I'm concerned, that is then long enough.
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Re: Note: NEED HELP DECIDING SOMETHING..TEAM REP's....tourney duration!
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October 09, 2010, 09:50:04 PM »
Well 3-4 weeks sounds short to me but I have an idea.
Its team
1 Vs 2 & 3 Vs 4
This makes three matches per team and we will have played every team. So a three week tourney is way too short but what if there is a little twist after the first three matches.
Say have a half way champ and then the last three weeks change the rules for another three weeks. This will give you another second half champ. Then have the two champs play each other in a another match if there are two different teams as champs.
As for a rule change I say simply switch the maps and see who can do as good in a different setting. Just for fun though. Lets try the TB 4 map NPS off for the second half. Its close and with ways to dodge the EML but also gives the team a feel as though they broke out above the flak after three weeks? What you think? I am just tossing out an idea thats all.
I think it will be more fun than just a double elimination 6 week same ole same ole. It might get harder to get full teams at that point.
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October 09, 2010, 10:39:25 PM »
Jason I put this on 5,
Cause I feared the intensity of players like Ripsta and Jason Chan, and what I've personally seen them do in their CFA's. On 5, the mountians give them limited ability to take out aircraft before they can take care of themselves or even get in range. I like the idea tho, but i must think on that more. What I need is feed back from the Rep's just about moving the tourney from possible 3-4 weeks with championship match...to 6-7 weeks ...running double Round Robin.
Doesnt look like and more teams are showing.
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October 09, 2010, 10:43:42 PM »
I got you DoC. I understand your points for having TB5
I just think that with your score system the way it is we can just play each team and see who is still standing. Then when thats over and we see who is on top switch things up a bit for another three weeks. This ways it more like two short tourneys instead of one long one. Your call, Its just an idea thats all. I am only out for a very fun and enjoyable time for all the teams that have shown up thats all.
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October 09, 2010, 10:59:12 PM »
I'm considering it....but one voice for a longer tourney doesnt make it so.
TB4 does have the hugh valleys to dive in and out of, and you can have 2 sammr per team targeting the CFA for long distance tactics. I'll consider it. It would be fun to mix it up, if not a whole slew of new rules and or plane restrictions, had to be put up, for the second round. That on the eve of the tourney..I will not..nor could I do..giving teams no time to prepare. I'm almost sold on the Idea..just a little more thought please...good idea tho.
I'll consider your posts as 1 vote for 6-7 match Double Round Robin as being "Cool".
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XGC..THOR HAMMER ELITE and DARKNESSx..need input on Doubling Round Robin
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October 09, 2010, 11:45:07 PM »
hi guys..need your input on doubling this event..because it turns out to be just 3 matches..possibly 4.
With Double Round Robin, I'm considering switching Second round to TB4..same rules..weapon level 3. NPC's off.
But need your Ok's. IF 5 or 6 teams has shown up..Tourney would have gone this long anyway..so no real biggie there, and there's still a remote chance another Roster is coming. But I'm just trying to make this fun and a little longer is all.
But the points will be totalled for entire tourney...and only one champion declared.
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October 10, 2010, 01:06:46 AM »
That sounds sweet to me DoC. I just love it. I am on with XGC & Thors HAmmer Elite right now. I will get them to reply asap.
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Re: Note: NEED HELP DECIDING SOMETHING..TEAM REP's....tourney duration!
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October 10, 2010, 01:12:03 AM »
TB4 sounds good to me. will there be any crashing rule? just asking because you never know
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October 10, 2010, 01:19:32 AM »
im up for the for the extedended tourny
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October 10, 2010, 01:26:28 AM »
Lets not bring up the Crashing thing again. DoC, Made it a permanent rule in the last tourney.
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October 10, 2010, 02:06:14 AM »
No BMWM,
There isn't. Main reason..with 7 person teams.. 14 gamers on the field the 1000 point deduction for crashing is sufficient..you just move on to your next target. Depending on the aircraft, 1000 points is more then you get anyway. Sure there is the CFA. But you have a CFA. Anything that eliminates the CFA from the board during the match..and creates a spawn time..is a good thing. Personal scores have no bearing..only Team scores..and a 1000 points is deducted while you gain missile hit bonuses.
You can Camp on the Spawn on TB4 just like you can on all the boards. If all a CFA does is spawn and die, whether it crashes or not..it's not creating points for it team, and it's impact is reduce by Spawn time.
A Crash strategy with a high number of players is a losing strategy..period. You hurt your team by doing this, not help it. This event is not like the Two on Two that was run on ACS. In small competitions, those points are crucial. The only reason I employed it in the Rabbits and Hounds 2, was for the opening F16 really. Because it was ESM aircraft.
No matter what Jason says..it's is a bullshit tactic. No real pilot would ever do. But then we are playing with an aircraft (CFA) that doesn't exist not even in name. And Yes..I know some of the other aircraft employed, are fantasy in performance..number of missiles..so on and so on. But the simple FACT is CFA doesn't exist..neither Do Rail guns. They are still far from reality..and if anything still way deep in developmental stages.
I've played enough to know..on a full board..where there are numerous targets..you can target..and are targetting you...let them crash the whole damn match. Cause I'm a killer..and if he crashes..that just gives me more time to point on the next asshole. A good Su-47 or F-22 can hang on a long time 97% damage and score kills. You do get points for missile hits as well. You hit him and get 400 points in missile hits..and he crashes..net result 1400 points awarded. He has respawn Time..and in the mean Time I'm taking down a mate of his..and the CFA is temporarily eliminated. Good enough for me.
The no crash rule does not apply in this event. On either Board. IF the CFA crashes..all the better..cause I've seen what Jason Chan can do in 30 seconds..and it ain't pretty!
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October 10, 2010, 02:35:57 AM »
Sorry DoC. You miss understand me. I was just trying to be funny not trying to start anything at all. Its still your show.
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October 10, 2010, 03:02:31 AM »
No Problem,
I'm in agreement with you this time anyway. Thats not to say I will be with every tourney. Depends on number of gamers on the board..in my book..and experience.
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